What do you use DivX for? Be Nice Please

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Post by post-it » Fri Jul 19, 2002 6:15 am

Divx² - Divx 5 - Xvid - Divx 4 - Alpha3.11 - Mpeg - avi & mov

in that order are the best Video Compression CODEC's currently in use.

the best is Divx² but it is only used for commercail encodes,
and the worst file compression is avi & mov "alone!" wwith no compression

Q: what is Divx ?

A: the idea had been around for a long time but never implamented:
if you take moving pictures and place them one-by-one, you have an
avi-or-mov(ie). Mpg was designed to remove the "common parts",
the parts of the picture that normally do not change in a video, and
only update the eyes & mouth movements; it failed, however - it was
not a total loss in the design of why it worked, just in its concept!
Divx is the best of Full Motion Video and Mpeg combined together.

viv - rm - wmf - asf & fm are Over-Kill-Extreames of Video compression.
these Videos are small but almost un-watch-able.

mpg - avi & mov are very clean and clear but HUGE hard-drive hog's!

Divx is a Video Format that is setting the standards for Internet sharing:
1) it is very well tested.
2) people like us, who use Divx, are very informed of "how it works."
3) it is very easy to use.
4) it can be returned into its original form ( un-compressed video )

Divx IS one of the most useful ways of sending and recieving home made
video's to friends and kewlest way to to share ideas that I know of :)

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Post by jbone » Fri Jul 19, 2002 9:57 am

WTF is DivX-squared?

You seem to be a bit confused about some things, post-it... XviD is better than DivX 5 in many aspects, and its development is not yet finished so it stands to only get better. AVI is a sort of container for video; DivX files are AVIs. Thus sticking "AVI" at the end of your little "ranking" makes no sense. (Similar with MOV.)

MPEG-1 succeeded at doing what the MPEG-4 based DivX codecs do; it is just an older implementation.

DivX *cannot* be returned into "uncompressed video" - I mean, yeah, you can convert it back into an uncompressed AVI, but you won't get back any of the lost video data.

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Post by RadicalEd0 » Fri Jul 19, 2002 8:08 pm

The best video codecs out there are
RealVideo 9, XviD, DivX 5, and DivX 3.11

in no particular order, because all 4 are very very similar when used properly. I prefer Real 9 and XviD

the best audio codecs out there:
RealAudio 8, Vorbis, and AAC in order from best to worst

real audio 64 kbps ~ vorbis 96 kbps ~ aac 128 kbps
sorry Real haters, but the above is true, I've done a lot of tests.

There are several formats/containers to use the above in, I personally use
XviD and Vorbis in an ogg media file (.ogm or .ogg)
XviD and AAC in an mpeg 4 file (.mp4)
and obviously RealAudio and Video in a RealMedia file (.rm/.rmvb/.smil)
NMEAMV: PENIS
NMEAMV: IN
NMEAMV: YO
NMEAMV: MIXED
NMEAMV: DRINK

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Post by JCD » Sun Oct 13, 2002 7:09 am

it depends always on your source which compression will look good. Mostly this will be XviD, DivX 5 or Real9, but there are exceptions: I've made a video which has almost all over the time fast picture changes etc. (the 30 seconds of very fast pictures in eoe, endless is the name of the vid if anyone cares). I've tried all this codecs to get the 4-minute video under 50 MB with a good result, but every avi-compression and rm had results like hell, no matter what I tried. then I tried mpeg1 and it worked just fine. lower resolution, some visible quarter pixels, but looked just fine.

try out every kind of compression, sometimes the good old mpeg1 will suprise you
and: xvid is actually only good for high quality versions, lower ones will suck.

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Post by klinky » Sun Oct 13, 2002 7:27 am

JCD is out of the loop :shock:


Jul 19th , OCt 13th :?

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Post by JCD » Sun Oct 13, 2002 7:51 am

klinky wrote:JCD is out of the loop :shock:


Jul 19th , OCt 13th :?
oops, wrong time
*travels back to past*

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Re: What do you use DivX for? Be Nice Please

Post by Sub0 » Sun Oct 13, 2002 12:15 pm

The_Digital_Phoenix wrote:Okay, I know I already have a few of you laughing or shouting "what a f***ing noob!" but I want to know. I thought that it was an encoder of some kind. I don't know what it does except it will play video files for me that no other player will. So if that's all, then cool, but if it does more, great.
DivX is a codec, a COmputer driven DECoder. Meaning, what the computer does is uses the codec files (once installed) to do it's primary job, decode a video that was made to use the DivX codec. Alternatively you can also encode with the DivX codec. This is highly suggested <b>for your final cut</b> though it requires that the person wanting to decode the video must have the DivX codec installed on their machine.

that is the simple definition (actually the first sentance would have been all that was required but HEY! I'm feeling generous today) and I'm wondering why, in 15 responses nobody really answered the question, <b>What do you use DivX for?</b>.

personally I was never comfortable with the DivX 5 codec until recently cuz you couldn't play DivX 5 files with the DivX 4 codec... but now I'm sure that alot of ppl have DivX5 so no need to worry anymore ;-p

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Post by Sub0 » Sun Oct 13, 2002 12:21 pm

post-it wrote:Divx² - Divx 5 - Xvid - Divx 4 - Alpha3.11 - Mpeg - avi & mov

in that order are the best Video Compression CODEC's currently in use.

the best is Divx² but it is only used for commercail encodes,
and the worst file compression is avi & mov "alone!" wwith no compression

Q: what is Divx ?

A: the idea had been around for a long time but never implamented:
if you take moving pictures and place them one-by-one, you have an
avi-or-mov(ie). Mpg was designed to remove the "common parts",
the parts of the picture that normally do not change in a video, and
only update the eyes & mouth movements; it failed, however - it was
not a total loss in the design of why it worked, just in its concept!
Divx is the best of Full Motion Video and Mpeg combined together.

viv - rm - wmf - asf & fm are Over-Kill-Extreames of Video compression.
these Videos are small but almost un-watch-able.

mpg - avi & mov are very clean and clear but HUGE hard-drive hog's!

Divx is a Video Format that is setting the standards for Internet sharing:
1) it is very well tested.
2) people like us, who use Divx, are very informed of "how it works."
3) it is very easy to use.
4) it can be returned into its original form ( un-compressed video )

Divx IS one of the most useful ways of sending and recieving home made
video's to friends and kewlest way to to share ideas that I know of :)
oh post it got it (sort of...) my faith in the org has been restored HALLELUYAZ!!

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Post by Sub0 » Sun Oct 13, 2002 12:27 pm

RadicalEd0 wrote:The best video codecs out there are
RealVideo 9, XviD, DivX 5, and DivX 3.11

in no particular order, because all 4 are very very similar when used properly. I prefer Real 9 and XviD

the best audio codecs out there:
RealAudio 8, Vorbis, and AAC in order from best to worst

real audio 64 kbps ~ vorbis 96 kbps ~ aac 128 kbps
sorry Real haters, but the above is true, I've done a lot of tests.

There are several formats/containers to use the above in, I personally use
XviD and Vorbis in an ogg media file (.ogm or .ogg)
XviD and AAC in an mpeg 4 file (.mp4)
and obviously RealAudio and Video in a RealMedia file (.rm/.rmvb/.smil)
forgot to mention Real will suck the life out of you, even worse than Apple. :wink:

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Re: What do you use DivX for? Be Nice Please

Post by NicholasDWolfwood » Sun Oct 13, 2002 12:27 pm

Sub0 wrote:
The_Digital_Phoenix wrote:Okay, I know I already have a few of you laughing or shouting "what a f***ing noob!" but I want to know. I thought that it was an encoder of some kind. I don't know what it does except it will play video files for me that no other player will. So if that's all, then cool, but if it does more, great.
DivX is a codec, a COmputer driven DECoder. Meaning, what the computer does is uses the codec files (once installed) to do it's primary job, decode a video that was made to use the DivX codec. Alternatively you can also encode with the DivX codec. This is highly suggested <b>for your final cut</b> though it requires that the person wanting to decode the video must have the DivX codec installed on their machine.

that is the simple definition (actually the first sentance would have been all that was required but HEY! I'm feeling generous today) and I'm wondering why, in 15 responses nobody really answered the question, <b>What do you use DivX for?</b>.

personally I was never comfortable with the DivX 5 codec until recently cuz you couldn't play DivX 5 files with the DivX 4 codec... but now I'm sure that alot of ppl have DivX5 so no need to worry anymore ;-p

Fuck numb. Codec stands for COmpressor DECompressor. Baka.
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